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I'm glad the Bulls aren't willing to hear any talk of Gasol for Deng and Gordon, but Sam's musings of Gasol for Noce, Ty Thomas and Thabo seems too costly for me as well, to say nothing of Noce, Ty and the Captain. But maybe I'm underrating Pau. I mean, I think he's nice, but dude's never won a playoff game: How is he supposed to put us over the top?
Any one care to enlighten me?
UPDATE: Maybe I should clarify that I'd be willing to part with Noce, Thabo and someone like Sweets, PJ or Malik, or maybe even Noce and Ty, but given Ty's potential, adding in anyone else like Kirk or Thabo in that deal just seems way too high.
Any one care to enlighten me?
UPDATE: Maybe I should clarify that I'd be willing to part with Noce, Thabo and someone like Sweets, PJ or Malik, or maybe even Noce and Ty, but given Ty's potential, adding in anyone else like Kirk or Thabo in that deal just seems way too high.
posted by BenGo07 at 4:49 PM
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Maybe it's the lack of size, post-scoring, shot-blocking, and rebounding at the power forward position?
Is Gasol a big rebounder and shot blocker? I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just asking.
Also, is his post game that nice? I thought he was more of a perimeter, jump shooting big man. Again, I'm just not that familiar with his game.
Gasol really does score in the post, he's not a jump shooting big at all. Check his 82games.com stat page from last season.
Another thing to consider is that Pau's got $60 mil coming to him over the next four years. I'm no Capologist but if that hurts the Bulls' chances of resigning Deng and Gordon next year--and it seems to me that it would--then I'd say that's one more strike against making this deal. Maybe that's why Sam wanted to throw Hinrich in the mix. I could possibly see Hinrich and Noce for Gasol, but that's putting more on Duhon and/or Thabo than I'd be comfortable with.
Why would the Bulls make a trade for Gasol in order to contend for a title, then not sign their other players? Resigning Deng and Gordon shouldn't be a problem.
It's my understanding that their current cap limitations mean that they won't be able to re-sign Noce, Deng and Gordon this year. (Only two out of the three.) So if they make a deal that brings on a $15 mil a year contract like Pau, even if they keep Deng and Gordon, that means they won't be able to re-sign both of them (unless they clear some cap space by including Hinrich in the deal; then his funds could go to either Deng or Gordon, and the other could get the space taken up by PJ expiring contract.) Again, I'm not a Capologist, but this is my understanding of the Bulls' cap situation (which granted is informed mostly by Sam Smith columns that I blearily read in the morning.)
I really think it's safer to assume that the Bulls wouldn't make a trade for a high priced player unless they could sign their young guys and stay under the cap, or be willing to go over the cap to sign young players. It's doubtful that Paxson and Reinsdorf would make roster moves, then get caught with their pants down a year or two down the road.
Regardless of cap situation, Deng and Gordon OR Noce, TT & Thabo both seem like bad deals. I'm with BG7. I'd give up Noce and TT or Noce and Thabo, but not all three.
I'm still on the fence about including Kirk, but a lineup of Gordon, Thabo, Deng, Gasol, and Wallace is pretty tempting. But the bench gets pretty thin then...
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